{"id":340,"date":"2015-02-04T07:37:49","date_gmt":"2015-02-04T14:37:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/TimeZoneReport.com\/?p=340"},"modified":"2015-02-10T06:34:17","modified_gmt":"2015-02-10T13:34:17","slug":"phone-conversation-with-us-department-of-transportation","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/TimeZoneReport.com\/?p=340","title":{"rendered":"Phone Conversation with US Department of Transportation"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Yesterday afternoon I had a 10 minute phone call with a member of the staff from the Office of the General Counsel at the US Department of Transportation. <!--more-->He mentioned my Emails to a couple of members of his staff, where I had requested some information regarding Year-Round Daylight Saving Time and changing state&#8217;s Time Zones.<\/p>\n<p>The staff member agreed to discuss my requests for information on an informal basis, under the advice that this was not official US DOT direction or guidance.<\/p>\n<h1>Quick Summary<\/h1>\n<p>During our conversation, the staff member confirmed (again, informally) a number of things that Time Zone Report has been advising:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>States can opt out of DST, or they can stay with DST as defined in 15 USC 260a \u2013 no other option is permitted, such as Year-Round DST.\u00a0 He said, &#8220;We have no discretion there, the Congress and Statute is clear.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>US DOT is unlikely to approve any state\u2019s request to change time zones.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h1>Would Congress Change Current DST Regulation?<\/h1>\n<p>We also discussed whether or not Congress could be persuaded to change 15 USC 260a and allow states another DST option of &#8220;Year-Round DST&#8221;.\u00a0 I mentioned the state of Washington&#8217;s SCR 1 which requests Congress to make the change, and the staff member replied, &#8220;That is how you would do it.\u00a0 Whether they have any appetite to do so, I doubt it.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>I asked, &#8220;If 10 or 12\u00a0or 15 states wrote to Congress to say &#8216;look, we really want to look into this [concept of Year-Round Daylight Saving Time], at least at <em>that<\/em> point there would be some attention given to it.&#8221;\u00a0 He responded with, &#8220;I think that&#8217;s certainly reasonable. Once they can cite it through their congressional representation, if you start getting that sort of mass, it will get some traction, but &#8230; what I really think would happen before that came up is that either DOT or somebody else would be assigned to do a study of that and see what the impact would be.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>So, to states that really think Year-Round DST is a good idea: send an official communication to Congress requesting that they change 15 USC 260a to permit it. That&#8217;s the only way to make this happen.<\/p>\n<h1>Changing Time Zones<\/h1>\n<p>The staff member mentioned Utah&#8217;s efforts to move from Mountain to Central when I brought up the topic of changing time zones.\u00a0 He added, &#8220;That&#8217;s a very &#8216;heavy lift&#8217; for that state, and I&#8217;ve let a couple of people in that state know that already.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Moving a whole state out of a time zone goes against statutory requirements, and US DOT is mandated by Congress to uphold <a title=\"Rules and Regulations for Time Zones and DST\" href=\"http:\/\/TimeZoneReport.com\/?page_id=313\" target=\"_blank\">the statutes<\/a>.\u00a0But at a town or county level that sits on a state border, for example, where the population really operates together with the local jurisdictions in another state that just happen to be in another time zone &#8212; this is where the DOT can rule officially to make a time zone switch. See, for example, the most recent action of this sort with Wayne County, Kentucky.\u00a0 Look at th<a href=\"http:\/\/www.gpo.gov\/fdsys\/pkg\/FR-2000-08-17\/pdf\/00-20854.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">is excerpt from an August 2000 issue of the Federal Register<\/a> to see their story (starts near the bottom of the first column, of this 5-page excerpt).<\/p>\n<h1>My Bottom Line<\/h1>\n<p>My conversation with the staff member was informative, but revealed nothing contrary to what I already understood.\u00a0 States can do only the following:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Do nothing, and follow standard DST starting the second Sunday in March and ending the first Sunday in November.<\/li>\n<li>Opt out of DST entirely, like the states of Arizona and Hawaii have done.<\/li>\n<li>Ask Congress to change the law to permit other options like Year-Round DST.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>End of story.\u00a0 Any other legislation relating to time zones or DST is futile.<\/p>\n<div class=\"sharedaddy sd-sharing-enabled\"><div 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